Michelle Obama says “We are feeling what not having hope feels like.”

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During a CBS interview with Oprah Winfrey, First Lady Michelle Obama spoke about the election of Donald Trump.

“We feel the difference now. See, now, we are feeling what not having hope feels like,” she told Winfrey.  “Hope is necessary. It’s a necessary concept and Barack didn’t just talk about hope because he thought it was just a nice slogan to get votes.”

“He and I and so many believe that — what else do you have if you don’t have hope,” Mrs. Obama continued. “What do you give your kids if you can’t give them hope?”

The first lady said that her husband helped retain Americans’ optimism during hard times.

“I feel Barack has been that for the nation in ways that people will come to appreciate. Having a grown-up in the White House who can say to you in times of crisis and turmoil, ‘Hey, it’s going to be okay. Let’s remember the good things that we have,'” she said.

During the 2016 presidential campaign, Michelle Obama campaigned on several occasions for Hillary Clinton.  Her appearances on the campaign trail became more frequent in the final weeks, where she encouraged Americans, specifically young people, women, and minorities, to vote for the democratic nominee.

The full interview with Michelle Obama airs on CBS on Monday at 8 p.m. ET and again on OWN on December 21 at 9 p.m. ET.

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